Prop 8 Approved: Now What?
This just came in: California voters approved Proposition 8, adding a provision in the state Constitution that "only marriage between a man & a woman is valid/recognized in California", citing uproar among the gay community. I, too, am disappointed to read of this after Obama's victory in the 2008 US Presidential Elections.
Shame...
How sad it is that the very people who voted for Prop 8 also voted for Mr. Obama. Hypocrisy, much? How can one vote for democracy & equality in rights when he/she voted to remove the rights of gays to be legally married? Shame. As mentioned in another article: this is a classic case of a majority using its powers in numbers to discriminate against a minority group.
Shouldn't the marriage between 2 people, regardless of
sexual orientation, be protected too?
Legal chaos will begin as around 18000 couples were married in the state; the legality of these unions now hang in limbo. Is it not a fundamental right for an individual to be happy? Is it wrong to be gay? It saddens me that even in California such close-mindedness & discrimination exists.
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What is marriage then? A legal union between a man & a woman?
How shallow. Don't stuff religion into it, not everyone abides by the same religion & there are religions that accept homosexuality like Buddhism ("be a lamp unto yourself") & paganism (yes it's a religion). I'd like to include an interesting comment: "I myself will tend my sheep and have them lie down, declares the Sovereign Lord. I will search for the lost and bring back the strays. I will bind up the injured and strengthen the weak, but the sleek and the strong I will destroy." - religion may hate gays, but God wouldn't.
A marriage, in my opinion, is an institution of love, commitment & trust between 2 individuals (straight, gay etc) who want to live together & cherish each other. How ironic that even California is more conservative than Europe.
I clearly oppose Prop 8 yet there is nothing I can do about it. I simply hope that with the new American era, people will learn to accept other individuals with different orientations; they are no different from you & me. We have no right to withdraw other people's entitlement to the same happiness that they deserve.
Everyone deserves the right to be happy
Feel free to comment.
Shame...
Shouldn't the marriage between 2 people, regardless of
sexual orientation, be protected too?
Support love
How shallow. Don't stuff religion into it, not everyone abides by the same religion & there are religions that accept homosexuality like Buddhism ("be a lamp unto yourself") & paganism (yes it's a religion). I'd like to include an interesting comment: "I myself will tend my sheep and have them lie down, declares the Sovereign Lord. I will search for the lost and bring back the strays. I will bind up the injured and strengthen the weak, but the sleek and the strong I will destroy." - religion may hate gays, but God wouldn't.
I clearly oppose Prop 8 yet there is nothing I can do about it. I simply hope that with the new American era, people will learn to accept other individuals with different orientations; they are no different from you & me. We have no right to withdraw other people's entitlement to the same happiness that they deserve.
Everyone deserves the right to be happy
Comments
~Total Hypocrisy there!
Well actually the voters in California passed the Prop 8 by a narrow margin.52% for Prop 8.
~But its Still Hypocrisy Ahah!
And I read somewhere that the states of Florida & Arizona are heading for similar Prop 8 Elections too..
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yes people, many male animals are Gay too...
Everyone has their own agenda with Gay marriage. Let's face the facts, they are minorities and it's a uphill struggle to defend homo's rights. Even a number their own parents won't share the same vision as their own homo children.
@Al: That's true. Sad too :( Whatever happened to being loved because of who you are, not your sexual orientation?
there are certain thgs that ppl wud be conservative bout. im ok palling around with gays or lesbians, its juz that when thats what the majority wanted and the ppl have voiced their views, what more can u say bout it? u wanna trample over democracy? r u telling me VOTING is UNDEMOCRATIC? what is not then? hypocrisy or not, it dwells in everyone of us. u might not be hypocritical in this case, but one day someone might find u hypocritical on some issues!!
not all who voted for barack obama are completely liberal. no one is a complete liberal fascist. i have been reiterating this for so many times, ask urself if u can totally disregard everythg and go for what u want without thinking what consequences it wud get u into.
bout prop 8, if i cud vote, of corse i wud cast a no vote for prop 8. while same-sex marriage wudn't be weird for some ppl, it cud be weird for others. i guess we have to accept the truth that same-sex marriage needs time for acceptance and embrace for most of the ppl. lol
I get that you would vote the no-to-Prop 8 & you're right that it'll take time for people to accept the gay community. I just wish that change would come sooner.
as long as the marriage is based on these virtues, no one has the power to deny your rights!! NO ONE!!
shame.. they're using the very act of democracy itself (voting) to suppot an action which is against every bloody democratic principles!!
democracy is all about equal rights and denying that very right to a group of people just because they're minorities is just wrong.. WRONG!!
look.. there's a difference between being 2gthr and getting married coz marriage is legally accepted..
that's what these people want, acknowledgement!!
is that wrong??
quit being hypocrites and so close minded!! :(
give these people their rights back.. they deserve it!!
They start adopting babies or kids..
Picture a friend having 2 fathers bringing him/her up, well for starters... I'm sure someone will give that friend a "peer pressure" thingy to whine about. That person with 2 fathers will be the 'topic' for the whole school to talk about when he/she just had the 1st step to education land.
Then picture a situation where a teacher ask a girl student to bring her father to school...
Teacher: Annie I want to meet you dad because you've been a naughty girl this year...
Annie: Um... which Dad... I got two of them.. they're gay married men...
Teacher: Haahahahah, ppor little girl, well I pity you... never mind then, I understand your situation... Have a nice day :p
Yes... Peer pressure and discrimination to the children.. Being victims of adoption from these Gay couples...
Don't get me wrong here, I'm just thinking for the future of humanity ladies and gentlemen, I don't think these Gay men are going to have one of them pregnant and giving birth in any way (Well... Lesbians can get pregnant... by means of sperm donors that is)
Let us go back to the main idea of getting married
1) We want to spend our lives with the one we love
2) We want to build a family and take care of that family built together... helping one another... creating a harmonious family.
I just want to say Gay couples won't have that harmonious family if we think about it... because in any normal and well being family there would be the Mom & Dad.
I never heard any individuals having Gay parents (2 Dads or 2 Moms) become someone successful like the president or the owner of Time Square... So I think I don't to elaborate this further on.
Ya, some people may accept Gay marriage but not all of them has the same vision as the "I support Gay marriage" people. That is why there's Prop 8: the majority of people around this planet does not support Gay marriage. They abhor these Gay rights and all... creating massive pressure to these Gays and yes... most probably their adopted children...
But, then again maybe it does bring something good? At least their adopting kids to give them a better life... in terms of food... shelter... maybe..
on what you wrote, that's STEREOTYPE of course. people change over times. people evolve. people learn. i guess you never learn, do you? people who accept differences and diversity are people who learn. people who don't accept'em, i would say never learn. come on, where's your maturity of saying gay couples won't make harmonious families? like straight couples will? straight couples don't divorce each other? we hear a lot 'bout broken families in this supposedly straight people's world. don't tell me you haven't heard 'bout it? now where's the validity of saying gay couples won't make harmonious families? it's RIDICULOUS and appalling to have come from someone who's supposedly highly educated.